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    <BLOCKQUOTE><font size=2 face="Tempus Sans ITC, Tahoma">quote:</font><table border="0" width="90%" bgcolor="#333333" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FF9900"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor="#000000"><font size=2 face="Tempus Sans ITC, Tahoma">Originally posted by reved:
    shot himself in the head cause he couldn't be a painter OR the ruler of the world (sounds like sour-grapes). [img]graemlins/cry.gif[/img] </font></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>

    this insight alone is enough reason for him to
    have committed suicide.... IF he truly was
    attempting to become ubermensch...
    especially considering one would have to have
    a natural genius in either an artistic/creative
    field... or an intellectual one (in order to be
    a complete ubermensch).

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    11, b?

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    I'll try to explain something, if I may: The existence of the Ubermensch has never been a fact. So, there is no point in voting for the Ubermensch of the Month, of the Year, or of the whole of History.
    Zarathustra was not Ubermensch; he taught the latter's coming, or, better, that the untermensch must perish for the ubermensch to come. We have an equivalent in our christian tradition (if we all share the same one): the ubermensch's coming is the coming of the Kingdom of Heaven.

    A last remark: both teachings are still unfulfilled.

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    *raises eyebrow*

    i agree... to an extent.
    i will agree that there has never been an ubermensch,
    other than what was contrived on paper or in thought...
    and personally, i do not see the human equivalent
    (as opposed that on paper/thought) EVER existing.

    as you know, there is quite a bit of hype as
    well as anti-arguments for such a 'position'.
    (as i tried to dispell with the hitler remark)

    but again, i must establish, i do not think
    that it is possible..... ever.... for there
    to be a 'real life' ubermensch.

    contest it if you may.... i shall not budge. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

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    I, am the overman.

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    How about writing a thesis about the Nazi Holocaust being a form of paricide. Cause ol' Adolph looked (and mighta been) more of a Jew than an Aryan Borther.

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    Hitler's grandmother was jewish.

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    OMAR'S OLD SCHOOL SLAM!!!


    ('no' response are all strongly disagree, and 'yes' responses are strongly agree)


    1) I feel guilty about what I have done or about what sort of person I am.

    No. I've often counseled others to ignore shame for what they've done and don't do anything shameful. Nor, do I accept 'apologies' for tresspasses. The same applies for me with guilt. Although I consider the emotional stress my actions cause in people I've 'offended', my honesty is more important than their emotions. "No, I don't feel guilty for slapping yo' moma."

    2) I feel angry about wrongs that I have suffered in the past.

    No. I believe might makes right, per se. It's an opportunity for me to become mightier. "yeah, she kicked my ass. she was supposed to; she's a better fight than I am"

    3) I would sure make a lot of changes if I had my life to live over again.

    No. Everything I've done I would do it exactly the same way if the exact circumstance are the same. The greatest state of my life is the love of fate.

    4) I often have strong desires to do things that I really don't want to do, and thus I often find it necessary to resist or control certain desires.

    No. All my strong desires are either carried out immediately, or plans for their execution are laid out. Preparation for any conceivable consequence is made.

    5) I don't have many highs or lows. Sometimes it seems like nothing matters very much.

    No. I have extreme highs and lows (which are indistinguishable from one another). Everything currently percievable matters to me.

    6) There is so much suffering and misery in the world that it would be better if the world had never existed.

    No. Suffering builds character. All experiences build character despite their degree of popularity.

    7) I need to receive favorable feed-back from others in order to have a good opinion about myself and what I am doing.

    No. Favorable feed-back is poisonous. It makes me sick with its promotion of herdism. The success and effectiveness of my contribution or expression is all I need to determine its value to me.

    8) One of the best things about doing nice things for others is the thanks and gratitude one receives. When someone fails to thank me for something I've given him or done for him, it makes me wish i could take it back.

    No. I prefer to abandon useless politeness. Any assistance I've given to another has been considered necessary by me. Expressing gratitude for the 'necessary' is ridiculous. I don't assist people abitrarily.

    9) You have suffered a bad accident or mishap. You:

    a: consider ways the accident may have been avoided....
    b: simply deal with it and put it out of your mind....
    c: find ways to exploit it...


    C. I look forward to the next time the event can occur to see how well I've adjusted.

    10) When things have been going very badly for some time you:

    a: most prone to pessimism
    b: least prone to pessimism
    c: set out to improve your conditions


    C. It is insane to do the same thing repeatedly and expect a different result. I don't consider things to be going 'badly', rather I consider circumstances to have a low degree of desirability. I work for circumstances with a higher degree of desirability, thereby participating in my own 'fate', fully acknowledging the very participation is itself my 'fate'.

    11)When I see someone displaying pity and acting selflessly toward thousands who are less fortunate or distressed, I am:
    (this Q was posted)


    C) consider such behavior a weakness and not a
    virtue; it is an excuse for the person not to
    face the problems of his own life


    Pity, is for the pitiful. There are three kinds of people in this context, 1) Those who can achieve, and do; 2) Those who can achieve and do not; and, those who cannot achieve. None require pity.


    Any positive feed-back to this will be ignored. [img]wink.gif[/img]

    <font color="#7c03f8" size="1">[ January 18, 2004 07:59 AM: Message edited by: Omar de Fati ]</font>

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    you're only following your destiny... 'omar'... [img]wink.gif[/img]

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    hhhhhmmmmmmmm, well this is what I got:

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